From another poorly sourced perspective from WorldNetDaily...
Mideast terror leaders to U.S.: Vote Democrat
Withdrawal from Iraq would embolden jihadists to destroy Israel, America
--by Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.
The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are "tired."
They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.
They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance "resistance" against Israel.
"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.
"This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege......
Did you catch that? 'This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats...' Now that's a thought I've not heard expressed before. Consider Europe, currently experiencing a decline in population.. Sorta...
In fact Europe could soon encounter what demographers call "negative momentum" when a shrinking population goes into an ever-steeper spiral of decline. How much of a decline is underway already? Europe's 47 countries possessed 726 million people in 2003, a total projected to slump to 696 million by 2025, a drop as large as Canada's population. Twelve of the major 27 countries feature falling numbers. If present trends persist, the decline will become still bigger and arrive faster in more distant decades as the region increasingly falls prey to negative momentum. By 2050 Europe's population could shrink to 565 million people.
But this trend doesn't take into consideration the Muslim population, currently hovering at the 50 million mark, and projected to double within a single generation. That's 100 million muslims in a Europe that is expected to decline to 696 million by 2025.
The secularization of Europe has led to a decline in traditional marriage, and many of Europe's young people are seeking careers and fortune rather than families of their own. But this is not true of Muslims. France is currently suffering from a serious case of denial-- more than a hundred vehicles a day are burned by 'disaffected' youths, but the French believe they buy themselves a reprieve from terrorists by refusing to point fingers. If the French were to call these youths 'Muslims' (which they are), the fear is that the violence would escalate. Surprisingly enough, the rioting in France is making ZERO headlines here in the U.S.
Americans are focused too much on themselves. We, as a nation, are to narcissistic, too self-absorbed, to find anything of concern in the events in the rest of the world-- Iraq being somewhat of an exception. And I say 'somewhat' because Iraq has devolved into a political pill... a solitary rattle in a room full of fighting toddlers. What is possible in Iraq is conveniently ignored and distorted in favor of body counts. Nothing else matters but the body count. And Muslims in America with the right to vote, choosing to vote democrat... That is perhaps the most frightening trick in this post halloween season.
Quick! Who said this?
"Though liberty is established by law, we must be vigilant, for liberty to enslave us is always present under that very liberty. Our Constitution speaks of the 'general welfare of the people.' Under that phrase all sorts of excesses can be employed by lusting tyrants to make us bondsmen."
Cicero. Contemporary of Gaius Julius Caesar. This is where our nation is today, and our enemies recognize the direction we are traveling even if we do not. And just as they have moved into Europe and begun to multiply, most innocuously, following traditions of family that Europe has all but abandoned, America has begun down that very same path Europe is currently on-- Cultural De-evolution. Now it's our turn; Muslims have come to our shores, and have become citizens. And being good muslims they naturally desire a system of governance that mirrors their own beliefs and values, much as America did in its first three centuries of existence.
Now America is beginning to abandon the traditional family. Abortion is not only accepted, but encouraged for any and all manner of inconvenience. Muslims, however, remain steadfast to their own ideal of traditional family values. America's postition is nowhere near as dire as Europe's... Now. But the very fact that Muslims in the Middle East are encouraging Muslims in America to vote Democrat speaks to a level of intellectual sophistication many here have discounted entirely. The conventional thinking has been, 'They're a bunch of sand-monkeys, camel-jockey's, intellectual neanderthals from the sixth century.' And while this may be true of some small segment within the greater Middle East, the ones who hijacked 4 planes on 9.11 were anything but. Now the enemy is in our midst... In the gate... Brandishing the weapons of citizenship.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the carrier of the plague. You have unbarred the gates of Rome to him."
--Cicero
Anyone who takes an oath to become a citizen of the U.S. and then actively works to subvert the system that welcomed them with open arms... Such a one is a traitor. The same can be said of ANYONE who takes an oath: Senators, Representatives, Presidents. Our problem, however, is not that we can recognize the marks of a traitor, but that we fail to accept that our leaders also-- especially of late --work to subvert the system that gives them privilege.
Our two party system is broken. One party seeks power for the sake of power and will condone any amount of corruption to attain it-- I speak of Democrats. Another party seeks to hold on to power because the taste of it has become a consuming drug-- I speak of Republicans. And fear rules the hearts of both. Fear of the other, but not of the common enemy. To both parties the 'Common Enemy' is nothing more that a rhetorical strawman, conveniently brought out and burned in effigy to attack the other party. America can't withstand the continued foolishness of BOTH parties, but the agenda of the Left is a particular danger; it's espousal of cultural relativism, gay marriage, and the murder of the unborn, allows the Common Enemy time and material to cripple and eventually reshape this nation to a design more to their liking.
Seriously, what nation on the face of the earth has remained unchanged by social upheaval for more than, say, 500 years? Why do we insist on believing the United States of America will continue forever? How is this possible? Arrogance. It is arrogance that has Europe in the straits in which it now finds itself. It is arrogance that has France gripped by denial-- Muslim problem? What Muslim problem? And it will be arrogance that brings this nation to an end. The end of the United States of America, as we know it.
If America fails to act now, Dhimmitude may be our ultimate fate. And that's why you should vote Republican. Not because they're less full of themselves, but because they're willing to fight against our Common Enemy. Democrats only want to run.
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Repulicans aren't perfect. Democrats are far worse.
Are you saying that because middle-east Muslims would prefer a democratic congress that such a legislative branch would strengthen terror leaders and their aims? Are you saying that American Muslims as a group have an agenda that they are consciously pursuing to turn America into a sharia state?
I'm gonna guess you're talking about the first scenario. I would think that Muslims in the Mideast might not like the Republican Congress for the same reasons that a majority of the American public doesn't like the Republican Congress. They've been a rubber stamp to all of the Bush administration's foreign and domestic policies. Haven't challenged him on hardly anything.
And something else EL. "Terrorist Leaders" will say they're winning no matter what happens here in the US. That's their propaganda strategy. Just like Hezbollah's and Kim Jong Il's and America's. At the end of an indecisive conflict both sides always declare victory. The hard question is what would actual victory in Iraq be at this point.
Is it dividing the country into 3 separate regions for Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis? The Sunni's won't accept that because in the south where they're concentrated there's very little oil.
Is it a single country with democratic elections? That way leads Iraq to a country that will probably be less friendly to the US than any other in the region. A country heavily dominated by religious extremists (not terrorists) and influences from Iran and Syria.
Are we just going to step back and let the Iraqi settle it themselves? That might be a decade or more while a bloody internal genocidal civil war rages. It would probably leave just another dictator in the end too.
These are the questions that people are asking. What are the Republicans answer to these questions? If they don't have anything more detailed than "Stay the course or you support the terrorists!" Then they need to step or be pushed aside so people who will actually ask and discuss these questions can have power.
But, it won't work. BTW, here's more evidence the leaders of the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites. A prominant anti-gay marriage evangelical leader apparently has been having sex with a gay prostitute. What's next?
"Are we just going to step back and let the Iraqi settle it themselves?"
Actually, yes. And it'll happen far sooner than 10 years.
It is a tremendous error on your part if you're looking at evangelicals expecting them to be perfect little Jesus-clones. For crying out loud! You've got a brain... Use it!
Just so you know, I'm not offended by your insinuation. If anything, I'm offended by your ignorance. And and Dem or Lib who wants to point at this as say, "SEE, Conservatives are just as bad as anyone else!!!" deserves to be branded an idiot.... And a hypocrite.
And that's all I'm going to say about that, except, "Sincerest apologies if I've offended anyone."
When you preach/teach/nag against something and people find out you’re doing the thing you preach/teach/nag against, you are a hypocrite who deserves ridicule, especially if you’re high profile. Haggard fits this to a T.
All I'm saying is... if you want to play that game expect to have numerouos points racked up against you as well.
And yes, I am testy these days.
Yes, as a matter of fact:
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."--Ibrihim Cooper, CAIR's Director of Communications
CAIR founder and Chairman Emeritus Omar M. Ahmad:
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."
Solution? Limit immigration. SEVERELY limit immigration. I think it's high time to start being choosy. Just because they want in doesn't mean they should be let in. Look at all the Cubans we send back. I'd much rather have them than Muslims.
Would you like to explain to me what Haggard's crime was?
Gay Sex?
Opposing Gay Marriage?
Are the two mutually exclusive?
Is either a crime?
Should they be?
Maybe you are upset about Haggard's alleged Drug use?
Haggard says he never used the drugs, and his accuser has failed a lie detector test.
Even if he did use Drugs, do you think that should be a crime?
What if he never inhaled?
What are you trying to say here?
What office, exactly, is Haggard running for?
Is he a Democrat or a Republican?
Does that matter?
Is someone who supports Gay Marriage, but makes fun of someone accused of engaging in Gay Sex by definition a Hypocrite?
If we are supposed to be a tollerant society, then shouldn't we be tollerant of everyone, regardless of political affiliation or Religious Beliefs?
Please explain all of this to me, Solomon.
I need to understand it, and you, apparently, are the expert here...
"...the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence."
--1 Corinthians 1:18-29
Plus, he hurts millions of people by the polices he advocates, then goes against them in his private life. That's hypocricy!
Regarding your charges of hypocricy on my part, they are predictable and hollow. I am pointing out that this man does not practice what he preaches, not condemning him for having gay sex.
If anything, it shows how perverted it is to deny one's nature.
And I find it ironic that I (a liberal atheist!) lead a more pious life than the leader of the NAE, even by his own standards!
Ever had gay sex?
Liberal atheist: no.
Chief moralizing scold of the NAE: yes!
Ever paid for sex?
Liberal atheist: no.
Chief moralizing scold of the NAE: yes!
Ever bought drugs?
Liberal atheist: no.
Chief moralizing scold of the NAE: yes!
Now, the first two charges are alleged, but it's not looking good for him. Remember, he denied even knowing the guy at first.
And he is a powerful Republican. From Lauren Sandler: "Haggard participates -- or at least he did -- in weekly White House conference calls, and he and the president like to joke that the only thing they disagree on is what truck to drive."
As far as my parading this, ditto on the Kerry bit and a million other things. That's politics.
Yes, Tug, I think buying and using meth should be illegal. And yes I know what you are getting at.