Breitbart has posted a piece on Pat Robertson's latest word from God... America will suffer mass killings, via terrorist attacks later this year. There's no doubt that a vast majority within the hearing of Robertson's word from the Lord will, like those in Noah's day, scoff... And mightily. But it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see the writing on the wall-- we will be hit again, and chances are it will be big. In the millions as Robertson suggests? Fifty years ago that number wouldn't have seemed so far-fetched, but today? Who can touch America with such fire? With such vehemence?
God can.
And taking a look around, at what's become of this once mighty Christian nation, there's no reason He should stay His hand.
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This world is not our home, we're just a passing through. What is sick is not warning those who are not prepared and pretending as Dan said about the pie in the sky.
I don't know many democrats, libertarians, agnostics, aethiests or christians wanting to see another 9/11 style attack.
You're brighter than this Ben...
Judging, ER?
Like EL says, Just because I read it, doesn't mean I want it to happen.
On the other hand, Robertson a man of God? Maybe it's just the way I see him but my opinion is: If Money is God, then yes, He is a man of God.
ER wouldn't believe what's right in front of his face unless Jesus himself, in person, and ER's pastor both agreed, in his presence, proclaimed it so.
Mark, don't start being an ass again. I no more venerate my pastor than you do your navel -- wait a minute ...
Brilliant analogy ER. I disagree of course, but brilliant nonetheless.
Sheesh!
That's funny. You're so perfect, ER. I mean it. You are the standard we all should strive for.
Sheesh!
Yer wack, dude. Yer just wack.
Mom2, God is God. But humankind's perception of Him has changed as revelations have come. The God of the OT is an angry ramaging murderous jealous God because that's what His followers saw; then comes Jesus, the perfect revelation of God's love and grace, and He says, yoou have heard said one way, but I say another. So, no, not different Gods. But definitely different perceptions -- as we continue to see through that glass darkly! But I will never, ever understand how anyone who is in Christ can find much of interest, of grace, of joy, in the OT.
This is the telling statement that proves Robertson is not a man of God. The Bible tells us plainly that prophets from God are never wrong.
So, if he is not a prophet from God, and the Bible plainly says he isn't, then the question is:
Who is he a prophet from?
Tell me, ER.
In your world is Jesus the Christ?
It concerns me that you seem to deny the diety of Jesus Christ.
Is He the Son of God?
According to your doctrine, what did He mean when He said, "I and My Father are One"?
If you agree that God and Jesus are One (since Jesus Himself said it) How do you justify denying that Jesus said nothing besides the words attributed to Him in the New Testament?
Does it occur to you that He might have said a few things that werte never recorded in scripture?
Is what Jesus said as a carnate man the only things we can attribute to Him as God?
It would be pretty stupid to believe that Jesus never sasid anything no recorded in the Bible. It's equally stupid to attribute every word in the Bible directly to Him as of he said the words Himself.
I've never questioned the deity of Jesus. I alwsys emphasis the Son of Man over the Son of God because so few do. Jesus is presented as a comic book superhero so much; I think it's more important to listen to what the man said than what others have said about Him.
I don't know what He meant when He said "I and the Father are one." Tell me: If Jesus and God the Father are one, what did Jesus mean when he chastised those who called Him good and declared that "only the Father in heaven" is good?
Nothing is as clear as you want it to be. Nada. And guess what? It doesn't *have* to be. You want certainty where none exists.
I think that even a short list of doctrinal statements about the metaphysics surrounding who Jesus is is far less important for a Christian to worry over than following the teachings and the example of Jesus.
Honestly, do any of you think God has a checklist of things one has to believe about Him or about Jesus to be "let in" to heaven? I don't. I think it's an essay test with one question:
Once you got My Grace on you, what did you do with your life?
It is found in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes on him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.", Romans 10:9,10 "...If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.", and Romans 10:13 "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved!"
There is a critical difference in a "heart" knowledge of Christ, and a "head" knowledgfe of Christ. Failure to understand the difference can lead to Hell.
ER, I believe with all my heart that you are a Christian. God said, "I will never desert you or forsake you" That promise is the premise of the Baptist's doctrine of once saved always saved, and that is why I believe you are a Christian.
But I note with concern that you always refer to Jesus as simply Jesus and never add the title "Christ" to your refernce of His name. That is why it concerns me. To me, you seem to divorce Jesus from Christ, which would seem to indicate that you deny His Godhood, his Diety, if you will. That is why I ask, Is Jesus the Christ to you?
I mentioned this concern to a pastor friend of mine and he suggested I ask you that question.
I don't want you to read into the question that I doubt your faith. I don't. I only doubt your understanding of your faith. You are very erudite and you influence others with your knowledge of the use of language. I just hope and pray that you are not influencing others to rebel against Christ.
Jesus was speaking to people who perceived Him as only a man, not the Son of God. At this time He had not revealed His diety to even His followers. He was speaking to those who would have not listened to Him if He had proclaimed Himself God at this point.
God, and Jesus, and Jesus as God has impeccable timing! Do not put Him in a "mortal" box. He doesn't fit.
Yes, I'm sticking to that until you recant.
If I were a Jew, I would say that yes, Jesus is the Christ. I am not a Jew. So what difference does it make if I adhere to that very specifically Jewish concept of the Messiah?
And get off the Baptist train, man. Of all of the reasons you have, from knowing me (as much as you can online), for recognizing my Christianity, "ER used to be a Baptist" is the very WEAKEST, and the most ridiculous.
Oh, and again, I'll stop emphasisizng "Son of Man" when others stops emphasizing "Jesus, the Comic Book Superhero -- able to leap sin in a single bound." Get off the baby formula. Jesus is more complex than "Mr. Jesus Christ." Talk about putting Him in a box! Your mind, brother, is one of the smallest.
The tone toward those he wants to debate, gets so intolerable that when they come back with a little of the same, it turns into a war. (of attitude and words).
Now, I've gone and done it, because he will turn on me now.
Call me on my error -- if that's what you think it is -- regarding homosexuals and the church. I'll take my chances on being too open.